The Deal with Jimmy Savile

Posted: October 5, 2012 in charity, controversy, featured, politics
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Jimmy Savile – Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile – was born in 1926 and died in 2011.  He was an English DJ, presented television shows and was basically a huge personality in the media industry.  He presented Jim’ll Fix It as well as Top of the Pops.   He supported a huge range of charities and was known to all as a philanthropist.  He was knighted for these efforts and received an OBE and a KCSG.  He volunteered for his charities at Leeds General Infirmary, Stoke Mandeville Hospital and Broadmoor Hospital.  Sounds like a nice enough guy right?  That is, until you hear about the allegations of sexual abuse.

Allegations of Sexual Abuse against Jimmy Savile

Scotland Yard has started an investigation into Jimmy Savile amidst allegations that he has sexually abused over 40 victims, including a man.  Dozens of people have contacted police forces across the country to talk about their own experiences.  The male alleges to have been molested by Jimmy Savile when he was just 12 years old.  A nurse has also claimed that she has seen Jimmy Savile abuse a hospital patient who was recovering from brain surgery.  She was in hospital herself, not on duty as a nurse.  Savile was volunteering here.  Another woman claims to have been molested by Savile as she lay on an operating trolley in the same hospital.

It is said that the molestations and abuses were committed between 1950 and 1990.

There are even some audio recordings during which Savile is behaving inappropriately with a young girl.

Pressure on the BBC

There is significant pressure on the BBC amidst claims that they knew Savile was being accused.  In fact, a new Leveson enquiry will hopefully take place into this claim.  The recording mentioned above is being questioned at the minute. Someone made and kept that recording and it isn’t clear whether or not it was ever broadcasted.  The Met Office’s child abuse team will now work with the BBC to find out the truth behind all of this.  Some of the allegations made against Savile come from women who said they happened on the premises of the BBC themselves.

The BBC, naturally, is denying that any of their senior figures were aware of Savile’s activities and would never turn a blind eye to this sort of behaviour.  For many, however, it is incomprehensible that allegations of this nature have only been reviewed internally by the BBC.

It has now been uncovered that allegations against Savile came out in 2007 and he was then investigated by Surrey Police.  This took place in 2007 and the allegations were said to have taken place in the 1970s.  Surely, the BBC knew about that one?  In fact, Savile himself bragged to his friends that he was “untouchable”.   Other broadcasters, including Paul Gambaccini, said he has seen this coming a long time ago and everybody knew that Savile had a penchant for young girls.  A driver who worked for the BBC has stated that people were getting fired from their BBC jobs if they made any statements about Savile.

Why the Powerful Can Get Away with Abuse

So how come none of these victims came forward sooner?  The alleged male victim claimed that he would not be believed and that it could damage his career as a school teacher.  In fact, when he told his family about what had happened, even they did not believe him, trusting instead the good work Savile has done over many years.

Another reason as to why someone as powerful as Jimmy Savile can get away with this is that he hides where you least expect him: in plain sight.  He behaves in such a way that there is no chance anyone would ever believe he was a paedophile, by being a philanthropist.  For many of us, someone who does so much for charity cannot do something as wrong as abuse children.  A certainly not someone who does their charitable work publically.  We are conditioned to think that they wouldn’t dare, that they wouldn’t jeopardise their career like that.  But we are wrong to think that.

Worst of all, it isn’t just the horrific idea that someone who seemed as “nice” as Jimmy Savile could potentially be an absolute monster.  One of the problems is that it is highly conceivable that people in the right places (the BBC) knew about it and let him carry on.  It was more important to keep someone like Savile in the public light than to admit they were shooting a paedophile straight to fame.

How often do we hear this story though?  Whether it is politicians, people within the clergy or any other figure of authority or power, the same thing gets said time and time again by the victims: I didn’t say anything because I thought no one would believe me because of the position the perpetrator was in.  If we are to change anything for the better, shouldn’t we change that mind set at least?

  1. Jo-Lo says:

    And let’s not forget the hypocrisy of Esther Rantzen:

  2. Jo-Lo says:

    And here is the recording mentioned above:

  3. Breaking news: St John International head office in London have this week made the decision to grant awards to two known members of a paedophile gang in New Zealand. The awards are to be presented by the Queen’s representative in NZ, the Governor General.

    • Jo-Lo says:

      That is disgusting! Over here, at the last Prime Minister’s Questions, an allegation was made that a peadophile ring has operated within the government, or under protection of the government. Interesting that there is NO NEWS about this at all since PMQs…

  4. Apple Jack says:

    I really wish the police were allowed to look into this and find out the truth, but they’re not because he’s dead.

    I’m sorry but Jimmy Savile could do sweet bu**er all about the investigation into him between 2007 and 2009 (again started by ex-pupils from Duncroft approved school). Twenty-two pupils from the same year of the original complainant were traced and questioned and this yielded one complaint (the original complaint) of someone witnessing an indecent assault at Duncroft approved school in the late 1970’s, one of inappropriate sexual language used at the school during this time, one from a sister of an ex Duncroft pupil complaining that he had forced a kiss on her and put his tongue in her mouth at a concert at Stoke Mandeville hospital when she was 14 in 1973 (an indication that word of the investigation had got around or it would have been rather too much of a coincidence after all this time, wouldn’t it?) and finally a further allegation was made to a separate police force in 2008 about an indecent assault by Jimmy Savile on an adult stemming back decades (another indication that word of the investigation had got around, again, it would be rather implausible that this was a mere coincidence, after 30+ years that a woman from the same part of the country all of a sudden decided to contact the police about this incident completely independent of these other women and knowing nothing about the police investigation that was already going on, wouldn’t it…?). The police force conducted an INI (Impact Nominal Index) check and the two forces liaised. Prior to this, at the start of the original enquiry in 2007, Surrey police did an INI check (a system designed to share intelligence between forces), a request was sent to EVERY force in the country to check their records for information relating to Jimmy Savile and it returned ‘NO TRACE OF SIMILAR ALLEGATIONS’. NONE OF THESE COMPLAINANTS WERE WILLING TO SUPPORT A CRIMINAL PROSECUTION (OR EVEN A PROPER INVESTIGATION). Investigating officers did meet with representatives from Barnardo’s, who managed Duncroft during the period the complaints were from, who stated they had had no reports to staff of any sexual incidents by staff or visitors. Jimmy Savile was interviewed under caution at Stoke Mandeville hospital in 2009 and the case was referred to the Crown Prosecution Service who (surprise surprise) advised that there was ‘insufficient evidence to charge’. It had sweet f a do with a ‘cover up’ or Jimmy Savile having ‘too much power’ or ‘friends in high places’ (clearly the likes of Michael Jackson, Johnathan King and Gary Glitter never had this luxury and you’d have thought someone like Michael Jackson would have more friends in high places and have far more clout than Jimmy Savile). The case was dropped, after a two year police investigation were the police went to a lot of effort to trace potential witnesses (tracing these twenty-two women took a whole year), because the CPS considered that there was ‘insufficient evidence to charge’ and none of the complainants were willing to support a criminal prosecution or even a proper investigation.

    It was believed, even by the staff on Newsnight, that many ex Duncroft pupils have been in contact on groups such as Friends Reunited and Care leavers Reunited for many years and many are and were in contact on social networking sights such as Facebook. Where were the complaints about Jimmy Savile taking girls out in his car and getting sexual favours from them in exchange for trips to sit in the audience at Clunk Click back in 2007, 2008, and 2009? It wasn’t just pupils from Duncroft that were taken to sit in the audience at Clunk Click either, patients from Broadmoor and other institutions were also taken to sit in the studio audience, have they made similar allegations that they were asked for sexual favours in return for this privilege? I’ve not heard anything (I know there has been one complaint from Broadmoor but that relates to a different time period, has nothing to do with the trips to Clunk Click or any other outing offered by Jimmy Savile and came out after the ITV ‘documentary’ and huge media frenzy so I personally don’t consider it particularly reliable).

    Bar the first and last allegations made between 2007 and 2009 the accusations the police managed to yield during their extensive and commendable mission were pretty trivial, especially if you consider (if they happened like that or even happened at all) that they were complaints from 30+ years ago (I don’t know a woman over 50 that doesn’t have a story like the one of the girl being kissed unwillingly or the one of ‘inappropriate sexual language’ – i‘d be surprised if there was a soul on earth who doesn’t have a story a bit like the latter). Where was this Fiona and Karin Ward with those complaints back then (or ever…?), until 2010 when Karin Ward started writing a blog on a site called ‘FanStory’ about the hideous abuse she claims to have suffered as a youngster that explains all the problems she’s had and mistakes she’s ever made and exonerates her from them?
    When did she first start discussing this ‘abuse’ by Jimmy Savile, Freddie Starr and Gary Glitter with friends, family, acquaintances or even a councillor or psychologist (if she did that it should be on record)…? Important questions…

    Her book which details the ‘abuse’ she claims to have suffered and witnessed at the hands of Jimmy Savile, Freddie Starr, Gary Glitter (and god knows who else) is available in paperback on Amazon for £12.71, along with a few others by the author, and you can expect a sequel in March 2013!!! 😉 😛


  5. Apple Jack says:

    I don’t think the decision not to show the Newsnight investigation into Jimmy Savile was ‘seriously flawed’ at all, it was the right decision. Why anyone in their right mind would think to start an investigation like that so soon after the man’s death and expect it to be shown so soon is beyond me.

    They waited until Jimmy Savile was dead to start the Newsnight investigation cos then he wouldn’t be able to fight back and you can’t libel the dead. Meirion Jones saw some woman’s so called ‘autobiography’ on the net and persuaded her it would make a good story for Newsnight. His aunt worked at the approved school she claims Jimmy Savile abused her at, but he never told his bosses that till well late in the game.

    I saw some of the interview of the woman who wrote this ‘autobiography’ on Panorama and thought she came across as a bit disingenuous, the first lie she was caught out on was saying she was 14 when she first met Jimmy Savile at that school, when she would have in fact been a few weeks shy of 16. Newsnight staff were also unable to trace the ‘victim’ she claims she saw Gary Glitter having sex with and she was unable to provide any information about her other than she ‘went to Duncroft and she was 13’. I also felt the way she spoke about/described the alleged abuse and how she felt about it seemed clichéd and a bit shallow and put on.

    Then there was the claim that a 2007 to 2009 police investigation into Savile (again started by ex-pupils of this school) was dropped because he was too ‘old and infirm’ and that they had all been sent letters from Surrey police informing them of this. When the CPS were contacted and contradicted this claim, saying instead that there had been insufficient evidence to charge, one of the main ring leaders was asked to provide proof of her claims that they’d been informed it had been dropped because he was ‘too old and infirm’ by submitting the ‘letter’ she claimed to have been sent by Surrey police, as her claims contradicted that of the CPS. A fair enough request you’d think…? She never supplied them with the letter however and I can hardly blame them for wondering whether they were being told the truth or not by these women at this point.

    All the original complainants (bar perhaps one, though it seems perfectly likely to me that she too had had some sort of contact with someone who knew about the Surrey police investigation, as I find it rather too implausible that a woman from the same part of the country would just all of a sudden decide to go and report an indecent assault that happened 30+ years ago, totally independent of this, during the exact time the investigation was going on – bearing in mind an INI check that was sent to EVERY police force in the country at the start of this investigation returned ‘NO TRACE OF SIMILAR ALLEGATIONS’ at that point) are known to have either attended or have had links to Duncroft approved school. The school where Meirion Jones’s (the journalist from Newsnight, who started the investigation) estranged aunt was head mistress of at the time Savile was there. It was also thought, even by the Newsnight team, that most of them, or perhaps all of them, had been in contact with each other on Friends Reunited and other social networking sites in the years leading up to this (and perhaps even the 2007 to 2009 Surrey police investigation), not to mention the woman who now has a few books out on sale on Amazon, including one about this (this must be great publicity for it, who’d ever heard of her before now? Sales must have increased no end…), was, from about 2010 onwards, writing all about this on a site called ‘FanStory’ using the initials ‘JS’, ‘FS’ and ‘G’ to represent ‘Jimmy Savile’, ‘Freddie Starr’ and ‘Gary Glitter’ (it certainly makes the story a bit more interesting if you throw in a bit of scandal about a few celebrities doesn’t it?). Apart from the fact anyone could have seen this and got ideas, it was the discovery of this blog that prompted Meirion Jones to contact the woman about doing the Newsnight story. How do we know if most of what’s in that story is true? (I seriously hope the police look into it, but they probably won’t as their apparently not actually investigating any allegations against Savile because he’s dead).

    I really don’t blame any of the Newsnight staff for having concerns about showing this piece. Apart from the fact that they only had the testimony of these women (who Meirion himself said in an e-mail to Mark Williams-Thomas on 22 November 2011 that “while ‘most’ were intelligent, ‘most’ were also ’emotionally damaged’ with a ‘criminal background’ as well as being ‘suspicious… extremely manipulative [and] difficult to deal with”) with virtually no other evidence to help support most of their claims (not one of them could even provide Newsnight with a copy the ‘letter’ many of them claimed to have been sent by Surrey police that would have not only supported their claim that the 2007 to 2009 police investigation into Savile had been dropped because he was ‘too old and infirm’, but also helped restore some faith in their honesty by adding credence to their version over that of the CPS, who had by now contradicted their claim), Jimmy Savile’s body had barely turned cold!! Are Newsnight expected to dance all over a recently deceased man’s grave and show zero respect for any of his family and loved ones off the back of stories from ‘suspicious… extremely manipulative’ women with a ‘criminal background’, who’d already been shown to be dishonest as well as having been in contact (colluding) with each other on various social networking sites for years leading up to this, that are uncorroborated by any evidence other than a few Clunk Click videos that may show that some of them were there, and when they were there, but other than that show absolutely bu**er all in the way of proof that any of them were molested?

    It’s also worth mentioning that the woman who was asked to provide a copy of the letter she claimed to have from Surrey police saying the 2007 to 2009 investigation into Savile was dropped because he was ‘too old and infirm’, but didn’t (nor did any of the others), did eventually hand such a letter over to the Daily Mail in October this year claiming (according to the Mail) that it had been sent to her in 2007!?! FOUR YEARS before Newsnight or the BBC got involved with this story!!! The letter was confirmed by Surrey police to have been a FAKE. I have no doubt that this woman herself is responsible for the letter, either faking it herself or getting someone else to do it for her (more evidence of her dishonesty).

    One of Newsnight’s deputy editors, Liz Gibbons, said she wouldn’t have gone near the story and was very supportive of the decision to drop it ‘on grounds of taste’, the programme was put on the BBC’s ‘Managed Risk Programme list’ (MRPL) because the grounds for risk were thought (and said) to be ‘legal/taste’. Well you don’t say…? Showing a programme about a man who’d died so recently rigamortis probably hadn’t set in yet based on nothing more than the word of a bunch of ‘suspicious… extremely manipulative’ fraudsters with ‘criminal’ backgrounds who’ve probably all been in contact for years and at least one of whom could no doubt benefit greatly from the publicity for the new book she was due to release on the subject…? To say that would have been in bad ‘taste’ would have been an understatement. To show that programme so soon after Jimmy Savile’s death based on no evidence whatsoever ever, save the word of a bunch con artists, would have been EXTREMELY STUPID, and that would have been the sort of action that SHOULD result in ‘damage to BBC reputation’.

    I can’t help but wonder what planet the likes of Meirion Jones and his ilk are living on…? It seems to me that Peter Rippon and Liz Gibbons were among the very few people involved in this with any common sense at all AND IT’S THEM THAT HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS OVER THIS!?! The world is mad.

    Anyone prepared to indulge this, when the dishonesty of most of them is already apparent, without checking the facts and not having the guts or common sense to question or look into their stories and be honest enough to admit when they don’t add up or that the evidence contradicts their claims will deserve everything they get when they eventually end up with egg on their face…

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